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Submitted by skiinginfernie on Fri, 02/03/2007 - 7:48pm.
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Today I received a letter from RCR stating that I have been banned from all of their properties until November 15 2007. And then, upon an interview with the company they will consider allowing me to use their facilities for the 07/08 season. |
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Joined: 06-07-2006
For some time now, Fernie residents have had a problem with RCR. On public forums we have asked for information regarding the decisions that RCR make, and have never received any kind of response.
I commend Ryland for speaking out and also for approaching the management of the Ski Hill directly. With the above letter you may have made your feelings a little unclear, as you commend RCR for their fine running of the Ski Hill, when you have previously offered criticisms. However I agree that you have a right to offer those opinions, and I think it is ridiculous that you have been banned from their properties.
Finally we have some concrete evidence of exactly how RCR/FAR feels about the Fernie locals and their opinions. How long will we continue to accept this treatment? How far does it actually have to go? Any one got any ideas how we can be make ourselves heard?
Joined: 04-06-2006
Thanks Alba, just to clear things up I commended the manager (Robin) of Fernie operations on the running of the ski hill itself. I did not commend RCR on their running of their operations. The team at Fernie Alpine Resort does a great job with what they are given, and kudos to them.
Joined: 03-03-2007
I have heard the entire story relating back to Ryland, Robin Siggers, Dave Downey and many other members of the RCR "team" I think Ryland is being quite polite in the way he is portraying the entire story. Maybe the truth needs to come out and as much as locals disrespect RCR, this incident is the icing on the cake.
Not only did Ryland have extremelly harsh words spoken to him by Robin Siggers... profound language at that (who has taken no accountability in this event and has gotten off scott free for his actions..... maybe he shouldn't have a job anymore... if he is representing the ski hill he is doing a piss poor job .....mmm
Granted Ryland shouldn't have "bumped" Robin, and it probably wasn't the best reaction from Ryland, but could have been much worse when you are being verbally attacked like he was.
He was also harrassed by Dave Downey at his job, and at his home. How does that work? How does RCR get off sending their rat race to track down someone. Someone whose orgional intentions were to only make good of a situation and to make ammends. Going to someones job, knocking on their door numerous times and after business hours at 7:00pm at night.....GIVE ME A BREAK
I mean we know that Ryland speaks his opinion and good on him, but this is a direct attack on a local from RCR and it's staff. Could it be more obvious that there is a vendeta against him and whatever RCR could possibly do to tarnish him, they seem to have done.
Couldn't have made it more obvious hey....
Funny how the higher up you get in a company the more scandalis you become.... the cirlce of lies will stay within hey guys!!!! Sorry, can't be hidden, when we know exactly the attitude Robin can have towards people and it certainly is not inviting, so it dosnt suprise me in the least that he would say such rude things.
I am disgusted with the way RCR and the "upper" members representing this company have handled this situation and think that an apology is owed to Ryland.
For a company that is trying to win the support of the locals...they arn't doing a very good job.
I am sure you will be hearing much much more about this and way to go RCR you have now created quite a bridge once again between the locals and yourselves.
This incident will not be hidden within the walls of the RCR corporate circle, come on...
Maybe there needs to be a overhaulin on the management at RCR and a morale boost.....
Joined: 03-03-2007
maybe you'll learn to keep your mouth shut ryland
Joined: 03-03-2007
Old Fernie, your post says it all.
The bigger issue behind Ryland being banned from the ski hill is RCR not liking the way Ryland exercises his right to free speech. Unfortunately Ryland gave them just the excuse they were looking for. Was he provoked? If you know the story... I think that is exactly what happened. Does it make his actions justified? No, probably not. Will Ryland now "learn to keep his mouth shut"? What do you think...
Joined: 04-06-2006
That's exactly what RCR is trying to achieve here. They want to silence the critics. You think im gonna give into that? For anyone?
Joined: 03-03-2007
Section 2 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms states that:
"Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: ... freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication."
Freedom of expression is a cornerstone of a functioning democracy. Freedom of expression promotes certain societal values, as noted by Professor Emerson in 1963: "Maintenance of a system of free expression is necessary (1) as assuring individual self-fulfillment, (2) as a means of attaining the truth, (3) as a method of securing participation by the members of the society in social, including political, decision-making, and (4) as maintaining the balance between stability and change in society." Our constitutional commitment to free speech is predicated on the belief that a free society cannot function with coercive legal censorship in the hands of persons supporting one ideology who are motivated to use the power of the censor to suppress opposing viewpoints.
Joined: 03-03-2007
I would just like to see what statements, prior to the verbal harrasment, and physical contact at the top of big bang, gave RCR such hate towards Ryland Nelson ? Constructive criticism should be ignoleged by RCR and used to improve their resort. Everyone complains , the lifts are too slow, the potatoes are too expencive, lift ticket prices too high. This is no reason to single out an individual and make an example of them. I guess it all comes down to the nudge on the traverse.
Joined: 06-07-2006
Oldfernie & ferniegirl - do you really agree with every decision that RCR makes? I know there are people here that think we all have to just shut up and accept RCR, because they are the big guys with the money but it's like bullies in the schoolyard, just because they are bigger doesn't mean they are right and it doens't mean we have to put up with things.
There is a saying "no publicity is bad publicity" and it's true. It doesn't matter what anyone says, it's not going to hurt Fernie as a whole, not in terms of visitors anyway - just in case that is what you were worried about.
Ryland was just the first person with the nerve to actually stand up to the bullies and make a point of addressing matters that he believes they could be handling better. RCR won't listen, because they don't believe they need to, but maybe when the entire ski/boarding population of Fernie realises they need to have one voice, they might get behind Ryland and start demanding some answers and fairer treatment.
Regarding singling Ryland out, I guess it was because they knew who he was. Most of us can hide behind our online names on these forums, so nobody knows who's door to knock on - and now that I know how RCR operates, I will continue to hide behind mine! You have to admire someone who would go up against a big corporate like RCR and put his name out there with his comments. Maybe we will see Ryland on "underdog" soon...
Joined: 01-10-2006
So, can RCR actually ban someone for said reasons?? I mean did Ryland cause any actual property damage?? Did he do a mass media publication that actually caused collateral damage to the company, to me this sounds like someone power tripping because they don't like someone... Will we ever know he whole story, I personally would like to hear someone from R.C.R's side of the story.