BP Mist Mountain CBM Project Action Alert

call your mp, and your mla, express yourself, if you dont call and let them know, they assume that everyone is cool with what thet are doing

Just out of curiosity. All of the people out there who are jumping on the anti CBM wagon, How many of you have actually ever seen coal bed methane wells with your own eyes? There are some clusters of them north of Coleman Alberta on the way to Kananaskis. To me they look very well managed, and don't look like the huge environmental disaster that groups such as Wildsight would like us to believe they are. As a matter of fact people camp all around them as they are located within a provincial recreation site.

How many of you who are against CBM and also the proposed coal mine, have ever actually been in the Flathead Valley?

The environmental groups paint a picture of this pristine, untouched wilderness. In reality over the last hundred years or so there has been extensive logging, extensive exploration, extensive drill programs seismic cut lines everywhere you look. exploration and old logging roads everywhere. Sure the Flathead valley is a nice place, but is certainly not the virgin wilderness environmentalists want to have you believe it is.

The environmental groups are right about one thing, the Flathead does have an abundance of wildlife, including a large population of grizzlies. Wildlife in the Flathead has co-existed with all of the industrial activity for a hundred years and done just fine.

I'm not pro BP or pro Cline Mining. I just think if people are going fight for something, they should really know what they are fighting for. Go check out the CBM wells near Coleman and go check out the Flathead valley with your own eyes not the propaganda posted on environmental group websites.

Want to see CBM in action that has already happend right here in the elk valley? Check out this page = http://www.cccbm.org/fgallery and come to your own conclusions

Sure the wildlife of this area has co-existed with the relative low-impact logging that has taken place the past hundred years, but the proposed BP CBM development is the most intensive proposal that this place has seen. Thousands of wells and hundreds of kilometers of new roads spread out over 500sqKM will effectiveley de-wildlife the entire area.

Not only does the flathead have an abundance of wildlife, it has the highest diversity of carnivores in the world, and one of the highest diversity of plant life in the world as well. Not to mention the numerous endgangerd species. Their are alot of other reasons why the flathead is such a special place. Check out www.flathead.ca for more facts.

Take a hike through the Flathead and be observant. If you spend anytime there you will find a nearly perfectly balanced eco system. There is an abundance of everything from owls, wolves, to the fury little rabbits. This is the last piece of balanced wilderness we have in this area. Coal mine, Methane Wells, It really doesn`t matter what it is. This is a bad Idea for the future of this wilderness area. Unless the only thing that matters is money and memories of once upon a time.

Ok once again I'm not pro cbm or pro coal mine in the Flathead.

The only purpose of my post is to get people to actually think for themselves. Go out and see things for yourself, not what the enviro spin doctors and the pro industry spin doctors alike post on the internet.

Pull yourselves away from you computer desk and actually go have a look.

Sanook said a 'little bit of low impact logging in the Flathead'
Give me a f***ing break. Some of the logging practices that took place in the Flathead were the worst known to mankind! I spent many years in that area working as a hunting guide, believe me the logging companies raped and pillaged!

You probably weren't old enough to remember, but in the 80's the oil companies were running rampant all over the Flathead. They even built an airstrip up there. There are seismic lines and holes punched everywhere. I can take and show you several capped wells. There were these humongous 6 wheeled machines running up and down the sides of mountains everywhere thumping the ground in pursuit of precious oil deposits that were thought to exist at the time.

The shit that went on in the Flathead was NOT LOW IMPACT!

But now 20 years + later the land is healing itself and there is still as much wildlife and plant life as ever.

Everyone loves a conspiracy. Frig there are people out there who are trying to save the Flathead that couldn't even find it on a map!

Educate yourselves by getting out there in real world, not in the cyberspace world!

I never said that the industrial activity in the flathead was actually low-impact, I said that It was RELATIVE low impact, compared to what BP (and cline mine for that matter) have planned for it.

And like you said, its starting to heal itself...so lets not F#$* it up again!

Why does this area need another coal mine when the existing Elk Valley mines are having to cut back their production because there's not enough rail capacity to haul the stuff away?

well said sanook (and trailhead.) I hate that "it's always been that way so why change things" attitude. We are supposed to be an evolving lifeform, sometimes I wonder if we (the human race) are learning anything about our future based on our past actions.
I don't need to go out to the flathead to know I don't want more mining and drilling in the area and I am one of those people who probably couldn't even point it out on a map, but it doesn't mean I don't care about it.
What's the worst that could happen if BP don't get to drill? We run out of methane? So what? What do we need methane for anyway?

Personally I don't think Cline Mining is anything to worry about. The logistics of their proposed project don't make sense. Does anyone remember the proposed Sage Creek Coal project? Same thing, they did a bit of exploration and a chosen few made some money in the stock market. My feeling is Cline Mining is gonna turn out to be much the same scenario....maybe I'm wrong?

Alba wrote:

I don't need to go out to the flathead to know I don't want more mining and drilling in the area and I am one of those people who probably couldn't even point it out on a map, but it doesn't mean I don't care about it.

Well there you go. It looks like you one of those people strap on the blinders and only see what they want to see. Don't ever go there you wouldn't want to muddy up all those wonderful conspiracy theories that are dancing around your mind with facts!

Alba wrote:

What's the worst that could happen if BP don't get to drill? We run out of methane? So what? What do we need methane for anyway?

Maybe I'm getting soft in my old age but I kinda like being able to walk over to the thermostat on my wall and turn up the heat and be comfortable. Have you ever given that little magic box on your wall any serious thought Alba?

We burn natural gas here in Fernie. Do you know whats involved in NG drilling and production? Besides the issues with drilling, the gas has to be scrubbed, sulfur and other things removed before our furnaces can burn it. This scrubbing process has an environmental cost as well.

From what I understand about CBM it is clean to start with. It doesn't have to be scrubbed, your furnace can burn it the way it is in it's natural state. So as long as the extraction methods (drilling) are regulated, it's pretty much a zero emissions energy source. That is a good thing.

Like it or not we Canadians are all energy pigs out of necessity. I do my best to conserve as do most. But living in a cold climate consuming energy is a fact of life.

The crux of the biscuit is we we will always need energy to heat our homes. Methane is a clean fuel. If methane isn't burned something else will be. Natural gas? Fossil fuels? Wood? Electricity (possibly generated by coal fired or nuclear plants)?.......How about wind generated electricity, excellent choice, how many of us are willing to shuck out a hundred grand or so to put one of those puppies in our yards? If we truly cared about the environment we would!

ever heard of heating your house with hydro? wind? solar? wood? natural gas is a scam!