No dogs on Mt Proctor?

Submitted by Who Knows on Mon, 18/06/2012 - 11:23am.
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I find it odd, and interesting (yes at the same time)

That you CAN:

- Mine entire mountains,
- Shoot bears, cougars, wolves, and pretty much ever animal
- Drive your truck through creeks to do the previous

But you CAN NOT:

-Ride your bike (greenest form of transportation on earth), on a single track (made by hand) with your dog, or a large group of humans, near a COW (the least endangered species next to the human).

What brings more money into Fernie; Cows that con not be butchered, or sold here, -OR- Bike races that bring thousands to the valley with cash in hand...

Anyone else slightly confused by this?

Submitted by V on Mon, 18/06/2012 - 11:53am
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It's irrelevant isn't it? We have to respect the owners who have agricultural tenure on the land.

Submitted by Old Dirt on Mon, 18/06/2012 - 11:57am
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This has nothing to do with money and mountain bike races

Submitted by megadude on Mon, 18/06/2012 - 11:59am
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It's pasture land and people have grazing rights to it for their cattle. Riding the trails is a privilege, not a right. Leave your dogs at home if this is the trail you want to ride or the next step will be a ban on all trail access in that area. It's no joke, the ministry is involved in this situation and it will be monitored and policed. People have a very disrespectful attitude in this area when it comes to their dogs, running them around unleashed, not cleaning up after them, ignoring signs that are posted everywhere saying No Dogs Allowed, or Dogs Must Be On Leash...I see it every day and it was only a matter of time before it goes too far and people get fed up and do something about it. Some of our trails run through people's private property, and they allow us access, for now, although they don't have to allow it. It's time to start respecting other people's property and usage rights because with the huge increase in mountain biking activity here, these kinds of conflicts are only going to increase and intensify and you will really see some restrictions put in place then. There are plenty of other places you can run your dog, respect this ban or nobody will be riding Swine Flu/Mad Cow etc.

Submitted by Old Dirt on Mon, 18/06/2012 - 12:08pm
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Well Said Megadude. And while were at it respect the work of the few people who built these trails by not riding them when in a Monsoon.

Submitted by cappy on Mon, 18/06/2012 - 1:08pm
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+1 Old Dirt

Submitted by utah on Mon, 18/06/2012 - 4:28pm
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+1 dude

Submitted by buzz on Mon, 18/06/2012 - 4:34pm
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I think some signage explaining the situation may be needed to make sure those from out of town don't inadvertently ride that area with their dogs.
+2 on not riding the trails till things dry out.
Oh and for bikes being the greenest type of transportation. That needs to be taken in context. Using anything (bikes, skis, ski lifts, horses etc), for recreation purposes is not a green use of resources. Walking and running are about the only things we do recreationally that is green and only if done barefoot. lol :) :)

Submitted by megadude on Mon, 18/06/2012 - 4:37pm
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Oh I'm sure there will be signage, the problem is how many will obey it. There are also signs around Maiden Lake (behind Extra Foods) saying NO DOGS ALLOWED and everyday there are several dogs there, swimming in the lake for god's sake....running around unleashed, taking dumps all over the place. People pay no mind to these signs, thinking their dog isn't the problem, or they tear down the signage. Dogs are supposed to be leashed on the dike trail, yet take a walk down there any given day and see how many unleashed dogs you see. So many people just have no respect for others. This is going to be a difficult obstacle for us cyclists, keeping the Swine Flu area accessible.

Submitted by buzz on Mon, 18/06/2012 - 4:58pm
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I agree with you megadude. Grazing lease or not, any dog chasing an agricultural animal can be dispatched no questions asked. Swine flu is one of the best trails and it would be a shame to lose it. People, just keep your dogs at home. It is not like there is a shortage of places where a person can ride with their dog.

Submitted by adam on Mon, 18/06/2012 - 6:43pm
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"WHO KNOWS" you've got some good points. Well said.

But I need to agree with the sentiment in the other posts. A landowner is kind enough to let people use their land for biking. I'm sure this brings many problems (including dogs barking at cows). If the landowner has asked for dogs to stay off the trail, then that's the least I can do. I'm glad the owner is continuing to let us use the land for now, and giving us (the biking community) a chance to prove we can meet their request.

A huge thanks to all landowners who let us bike on their land, and to all trail builders and maintainers, and to the people trying to improve Fernie's spaces that are designated as off-leash areas. Just a huge shout out to all the volunteers in town who help make Fernie an awesome place to live.

Signed,
A sometimes responsible dog-owner