Say no to Genetic Engineering

Submitted by elmo on Sat, 31/10/2009 - 5:16pm.
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Life is not a commodity.

Plants, animals, humans and genes should not be patented.
Genetic engineering (GE) enables corporations to create plants, animals and micro-organisms by manipulating genes. The results are not found in nature and cannot be achieved by traditional cross-breeding techniques. GE crops are usually sold by multinational corporations and are often designed to survive the application of specific, patented pesticide and herbicides. For example, Monsanto's Roundup Ready soybeans are resistant to Monsanto's Roundup herbicide, so farmers buy both their seeds and their chemicals from Monsanto.

While there are many environmental risks associated with GE food, the consequences for human health are still unknown. Even though GE food has been in grocery stores since 1996, there have been no long-term tests done on the impacts of GE food on human health. Some potential health risks associated with GE food include the development of antibiotic resistance, allergic reactions, nutritional changes and the creation of toxins. The Canadian regulatory system for food biotechnology is extremely weak and has been criticized as inadequate by many experts including the Royal Society of Canada. [Report from the Royal Society]

Canada is one of the largest producers of GE crops in the world and, across the country, up to 70 per cent of processed foods found in grocery stores contain or may contain GE ingredients. The most common GE ingredients come from crops like corn, soy, canola and cotton.

This is a Gmo Guide that was produced by Greenpeace Canada. I don't agree with all subjects Greenpeace is fighting for, but on the subject of what we are consuming as people it is extremely important.

http://gmoguide.greenpeace.ca/shoppers_guide.pdf

Submitted by Shu on Sun, 01/11/2009 - 9:10am
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Just to play the Devil's Advocate, found this ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIvNopv9Pa8

Viewer Alert; the video contains some language some people may find offensive.

Submitted by bt1 on Sun, 01/11/2009 - 5:07pm
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The fact that one huge corporation with way too many ties to the US policy makers is moving in the direction of owning all the seeds of the world. Monsanto has 75 investigators who bring law suits to small independent farmers for patent infringement. They intimidate, bully and bankrupt.

In response to the Penn and Teller video-if it could be done why hasn't it?

http://www.organicconsumers.org/monlink.cfm

if you want to know more about the real issue of GM.

Submitted by Shu on Sun, 01/11/2009 - 5:44pm
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Hard to argue against the growing corporatism of the World, but I would not wish to make that connection at present. Though I am confused and seek clarification...In response to the video, if it could be done why hasn't it? Could you please clarify, if what could be done, why hasn't it?

Submitted by gadzuk on Sun, 01/11/2009 - 5:53pm
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Owning all the seeds in the world? That seems a bit alarmist, how does that work?

Monsanto employs thousands and spends billions on R&D, why shouldn't they expect to recover some of that? Patents are only good for 17 yrs.

[quote="Tom Philpott on Organic Growers"]In a speech at the World Food Prize gathering last week, Bill Gates himself chided the critics of GMOs—and shed some sunshine on the foundation leadership’s philosophy on ag development. At one point, he declared, “some of our grants [in Africa] do include transgenic approaches, because we believe they have the potential to address farmers’ challenges more efficiently than conventional techniques.”

http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_19435.cfm[/quote]

Motorola has more lawyers than engineers, intellectual property has value.

Aids & cancer won't be cured by love & dedication alone, greed is a much more likely means to that end.

If you don't like what Monsanto is selling, don't buy it.

Submitted by elmo on Sun, 01/11/2009 - 6:09pm
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Has anyone ever seen the movie Food Inc.???

Submitted by sun ripe on Sun, 01/11/2009 - 6:17pm
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www.thisisthemovement.org

Germany Bans Cultivation of GM Corn
April 14, 2009

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,618913,00.html

Submitted by gadzuk on Sun, 01/11/2009 - 6:38pm
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Governments do funny things sometimes, popularity is a fickle friend.

Anyone ever heard of eugenics? It was popular all over the world in the 30's & 40's, even Tommy Douglas was a big fan. But the Nazi's kinda went over the top with the idea and now people don't talk about it much.

There's more to Greenpeace than meets the eye
http://www.activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm?oid=131
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.03/moore.html

If organic methods can only feed 2/3 of the world, what do we do with the other 1/3? Malthusians unite?

Submitted by elmo on Sun, 01/11/2009 - 6:53pm
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I love the state of media. Penn and Teller are two comedians? One is a raconteur and the other is a mime? Ok. If you watch any of there other videos you can smell the bias flowing out of the computer. I wonder who they get paid by? Anyone can take a bunch of stupid hippies and make them look bad.

If we are going to stop buying anything that Monsanto has touched you are going to have a hard time. With a revenue of $11.365 billion in 2008 good luck.

Have a look at http://www.percyschmeiser.com/

Submitted by Shu on Sun, 01/11/2009 - 7:34pm
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To be fair, I too love the state of media. I enjoy PBS, the BBC and CBC all for their own qualities as well as many other outlets of news and information. The media is varied, involved and increasingly professional and any argument that advocates a dumbing down of the medium I find is woefully unenlightened.

Sure, any group of people can be documented to come off as uninformed, but by basically calling someone bias as wrong and ill informed (regardless of their profession or because of it) you have not supported your position.

Finally, I will agree if you will accept that the growing corporatism of the world is worrisome and Monsanto is no exception. But to vilify a corporation is putting the blame on a single source when that seems to be to easy and missing more targets, such as our own corruptions.

With that said... I encourage a viewing of Dr. Michael Shermer's video, Why People Believe Weird Things. It is a recording that is of low quality, but personally loved the part with the basketballs. Hope you enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY6c3Wv0bkE

Submitted by Shu on Sun, 01/11/2009 - 7:53pm
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upon reflection I must say... rim and others, I have been to the original screening of Red Gold in Telluride with Holbrooke fielding questions with the co-creators and therefore am encouraging your attendance at the local screening. It is incredibly poignant and powerful and have come to believe you will truly enjoy the experience.